The Hope of the Soul Winner

Just some reflections on the role sower, the seed and the soil.

The Voices of Vanity Fair -- Part 2 -- The Voice of the Consumer

Continuing with a blog that I wrote back in August concerning the voices of Vanity Fair (Part 1), I trust you will find some food for thought with this thought. Long before Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress Paul wrote a letter to the Galatians addressing some of the voices of Vanity Fair.

Galatians 1:6-7 KJV I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: [7] Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

He was alarmed that there were those who would work to create great upheaval in the soul. It was of such a nature that it could be described as a hellish agitation attempting to perplex the soul. It was with the subtle suggestions of doubt or half-truth created by asking questions that would subvert the simple. The Greek indicates that the words “trouble” and “pervert” the Gospel implies a shaking back and forth with the intent of stirring up spiritual distress.

They would work to twist or turn around the message of truth. Our generation is no different from the one Paul was confronting. He was preaching the thought that everything has to flow through the filter of Scripture and the direction of the Spirit. Discernment must be one of the prevailing traits in our relationship with God. The reality is that Paul understood the fragile nature of faith and that listening to the wrong voices can turn us away from the faith. A certain amount of vigilance is required in our spiritual life. This thought opens up a question, “What voices are you allowing to influence you?”


There is a pattern in the book of Galatians. . .

• It starts with a troubling and a perversion of the Gospel (1:6-9).
• Then it progresses to a bewitching that will lead one toward disobedience (3:1-3).
• Then it moves even further in that it changes the appetite for godly things into the things of the world (4:9).
• Its deadly conclusion leads to a disabled runner who cannot complete his race (5:7-8).

Everything about Vanity Fair was designed with the spiritual shopper in mind. You can still have a bit of religion and a lot of the trinkets of Vanity. Everything about the American culture encourages us to seek after a wide variety of things. Take note of the choices, it is from bottled water (strawberry, raspberry, or lemon), to burgers (Whoppers, Big Macs, Swiss and Mushroom, or even Chicken), to computers (Dell’s, Macs, or simple PC’s), or to cell phones (Blackberries, I-Phones, Voyagers). It becomes almost endless as the sellers attempt to coerce people to spend their money on their newest invention.

With a deadly accuracy these voices of Vanity Fair wants us to make the same application in our service to serving God. The consumer has a mentality that makes him in charge instead of God being in charge. But in the process, God ends up being bought out and He disappears from the scene.

The reality is that the Gospel is a call to the denial of self. The Gospel is not a call to self-fulfillment but it is a call to sacrifice. I might add that there are hard demands to following this Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Luke 9:22-27 KJV Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. [23] And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. [24] For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. [25] For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? [26] For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. [27] But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

Living for God is not about us. Being a saint of God is not about us. In fact, it’s not even about our self-esteem. Being a saint of God is being sick of sin and having a sense of desperation for redemption. It is about seeing the Lord as the crucified Savior and His offer as being priceless and saving us from sin, death, and hell.

The popularity of cross-bearing is as popular now as it was back then, not very! However, we have no choice in the matter as to how that we come to him. Don’t listen to the voices of Vanity Fair that says that you can have it your way! When it comes to the kingdom of God, a consumer mentality is deadly. You cannot shop for choices in your relationship with God. What was required of the primitive, first church is the same requirements that fit in today’s society.

The consumer mentality causes people to “shop” their doctrine, “shop” their church, “shop” their pastors and elders, and “shop” spirituality. Instead of what is good for the soul, the choices are made on what is good for their schedule, their family, or their location. The consumer mentality fills churches while it empties the soul.

Someone recently sent me a link from Facebook for an online sermon in one of the most popular churches in my hometown. I watched with a progressive sense of horror and astonishment as a sermon from Mark 5 was preached by the pastor and before it was over, the demoniac from Gadara had been labeled as mentally ill and not demon possessed. The place was packed and the crowd appeared to be hanging on every word and I could only wonder how many people on that day had been misled, most if not all. How many people in that room on that particular day really were being oppressed by a very real devil (of which he has almost disappeared from American pulpits and church life) and it was being billed as mental illness? Can a host of pills fix a spiritual problem? That question is rhetorical in nature and needs no answer but just in case, let me say that there are no pharmaceutical answers for spiritual dilemmas. I was incredibly sad as the sermon came to a close on that day because I realized that many in that crowd were simply there because of programs, social contacts, and nice facilities rather than a true love for Christ and His Word.

The sad fact is that spiritual consumerism wipes out biblical discernment and true discipleship but it fills up buildings and makes budgets blossom. For a moment transition to the material side of being a consumer and its effects and note what happens. Professor Barry Schwartz of Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania wrote concerning the American “happiness quotient” being in a consistent decline for more than a generation: “In the last 30 years—a time of great prosperity—the proportion of the population describing itself as ‘very happy’ has declined. It has decreased because of an abundance of choices and a consumer attitude that pervades our lives.” Having more “choices” probably is not going to make anyone more spiritual. The cost of discipleship is the only thing that brings about lasting spiritual transformation.

Resist the flow of that voice of Vanity Fair that calls you to a life of ease and comfort and invest yourself to the hilt in the Kingdom. . . it is the only thing that really matters (Matthew 6:33).

The Persecuted Church

For the most part, I feel that many in the American church are very unaware of the international persecution that some in the global church have to endure. Recently while working on a set of sermon notes, I paged through Foxe’s Book of Martyrs and once again felt the deep-seated conviction that most of the American church probably would not be able to endure physical challenges to their faith. In fact, I even questioned whether or not I would stand in the face of persecution and even martyrdom for what I believed to be true. Perhaps many are choking on God’s blessings at the expense of our soul. Blessings and prosperity have a way of dulling one’s spiritual senses. Why do we really need God when we have a surplus of wealth and health? Why should we depend on God when we have become self-made men by following the advice of the best life now routine?

I have been accused by some of my “preaching buddies” of always reading heavy or even dark books and they are probably right! Of course Scripture has been the main fair of my efforts because I want the Book to master me and it will not happen unless I spend time with it. But in addition to Scripture I have been fortunate enough to have for years devoted much reading to Tozer, Ravenhill, Chambers (among others), and a host of the Puritans. The Puritans have had to endure an incredible amount of undue criticism by those of more carnal “spiritual” appetites because they confront the way that men live. Spend a little time with Boston, Brooks, Watson (my personal favorite), Edwards, and such like and you will suddenly find much encouragement in the areas of personal holiness, dedication to prayer and the Scriptures. All of these working in tandem have had the ability to create a formidable team of voices that continue to remain productive. Piper’s Don’t Waste Your Life (which has a free download) was another clarion call to me to simply do that not waste my life.

This matter of the persecuted church has again taken front and center in my life due to a book that was recently recommended to me to read. It is written by Randy Alcorn and is entitled Safely Home and recounts the persecution of the Christians in China. It was so troubling to me when I read in the opening chapter of the account of the saints on their way to church in the middle of the night and having to ride bicycles at that.

They meet at night in “house-churches” so that they will not be caught by the government officials. They were ever so careful with their Bibles and wrapped them in a waterproof covering. When they got to their place of worship, the prayer was reverent, the singing was heart-felt, and the response to the Word was majestic. What troubled me so much was that this coming up Sunday, there will be people (saints?) who will lay out of church for every conceivable and weak reason. They have not had any real interaction with the Word or with God all week long. They have Bibles that are not valued, prayer is basically non-existent, and their experience with worship borders on an emotional attachment to entertainment.

Just a few questions for you:

1. How many Bibles do you have and how long has it been since you treasured them in such a way as those in the persecuted church?

2. What was your reaction to the call for prayer on an “off-night” at the Church? Was it one of expectation or were you upset that your schedule was going to be disrupted?

3. Take a look at the last ten years of your tax returns and see how much money you have given to spread the Gospel and support the church? Now compare that amount with how much you spent on other things? (Going to an Alabama or Auburn football game is going to cost right at $400 +/- for the trip. Going on a weekend shopping spree in Atlanta or Birmingham has the potential to cost even more.) For you Dothan folks who are reading this blog, 65 foreign missionaries are depending on your commitment to God to keep them in the fray all over the world. . . we cannot let them or God down. . . we must stay on the firing line!

4. How much time have you spent this week with God-saturated people compared to those who were dead spiritually? Analyze the voices you listened to this week. Was it the frivolity of Facebook, the incessant voices of talk radio (political and/or sports focused), or was your MP3 player loaded to the gills with good spiritual voices?

When you have to answer those sorts of questions, it immediately sheds a lot of light on how much devotion you have to God. If faith has any value whatsoever, there will be an equal amount dedication that will be manifested in “works.” If you don’t believe me, go and read the Acts of the Apostles and then Romans 6-8 and then James 2:14-26.

I trust that you are feeling some heat right now as you read this, because I have felt high heat. . . as in the gentle but very convicting voice of the Spirit with every page I have turned in Safely Home. Almost fearfully, I did not want to even consider the thought that I could not endure the challenges of persecution faced by these Chinese Christians. Would I have been one of those who gave up because of the threat of personal pain? Is there even enough devotion and commitment in my heart to withstand such pressure? Or do I only live in the blessing trap that when God is filling His role as Santa Claus I can serve Him and when He does not live up to my expectations I am ready to give up? What an indictment against me. . . perhaps that same indictment is against you also. . .

C. S. Lewis—You never know how much you really believe anything until its truth or falsehood becomes a matter of life and death to you.

The book is dedicated to Graham Staines and his two sons, Philip (age ten) and Timothy (age six) who at half-past midnight on January 23, 1999 were burned to death by a mob in India for their beliefs. The reports are that Graham, in the midst of the fire, huddled his two young sons up close to him, as they were burning to death.

I can only pray that God brings this blog to your mind next Sunday night when you leave church and pile into Appleby’s or Ruby Tuesday’s or Burger King or wherever and bite into the chicken fingers or the burger. . . .




I trust that you will read this in the spirit in which I have written it. . . suffice it to say that although fictional Safely Home has moved me toward a deeper commitment to God. . . for that I am thankful!

God Bless,
PH

A Novel Ministry Concept

We live amid a constant barrage of marketing concepts. There seems to be a new gimmick ever day. The best sale ever is going on this week and next week a better one is coming. I told someone recently if the sales keep getting better pretty soon they will be giving us the stuff. But in all reality it is not so. Rather, only another gimmick to transfer your money to their pocket.

The church and ministry is not exempt from such things. We all want revival. We all want to grow. We want bigger and better facilities. We want to make sure no visitors slip through our fingers. We want our website to be a little slicker than the church across town. Therefore we seek out the best means and methods to make our churches just a little bit better.

At 48 years old I am a web sort of guy. I get the ether world. Blog sites, forums, online communities, Facebook, Twitter and who knows what is next. I see the way our culture is moving via the web and technologies. I can also remember a different time when truth was truth and absolutes were just that. I can remember being confused with the term post-modern and now the church is afflicted with it.

It seems that today Pentecostal ministry concepts are gleaned from non Pentecostal sources more so than the Word of God. Golf courses have replaced the prayer rooms. Ministerial values are assumed from associates rather than an altar. Ministerial concept books are consumed while dust gathers on leather bound bibles. Laptops, projectors, stools and music stands have replaced reference bibles, battle scarred pulpits and tear stained altars. Casual has replaced the careful dress of yesteryear. Grace replaced conviction. Sin is now called spiritual liberties. Morality in the pulpit is being challenged.

How did we get here?

What did Jesus say?

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Matt 16:24

Jesus indicated three distinct things should be found in those that were to lead his church. Self denial, cross bearing, and following Him.

Self Denial seems to be a thing of the past in ministerial circles. Churches are blessed and young men are able to live above the levels of their fathers. Financial blessings are handed over instead of sacrificed for.

Along with these blessings we see ministers who do not deny any liberty to their flocks. Nor do they deny anything to their families. Wife and children are carnal because their minister daddy or husband denies them nothing. The church duplicates the pastor’s home and the things he allows, the members take further. A sad cycle begins that spins out of control quickly.

Pastor denies no liberties to his church because he denies no liberties to his family because he has never denied liberties to himself.

Jesus told the carriers of his gospel to first deny themselves and then to take up their cross….

Cross bearing is not fun. It is not cool. It is not sexy nor is it socially desirable. But then cross bearing was never intended to be so.

When a minister carries a cross he cannot go some places and do some things. He cannot carry it alone so his family helps him. A cross bearing parsonage will result in a cross bearing congregation.

Some doors are not accessible to one who carries his cross. The cross prevents access to some places. The minister who checks his cross at the door, and then tries to pick it up on the way out finds the cross overly burdensome. Therefore instead of carrying it to the door he just leaves it at home and his cross bearing is for personal conviction rather than public view. Soon the cross seldom leaves the parsonage and often can only be found stored away with the stuff from yesteryear.

But Jesus said if you are going to propagate my gospel you must deny yourself and take up you cross and follow. This might be where some of the real issue is found.

For nearly a generation we in the ministry have been consumed with leadership and ceased followership.

A few years ago I found myself without organizational leadership or inclusion in any way. I felt forgotten and unappreciated. Then I decided to do my leading from the pew of whatever meeting I attended. Instead of leadership books I began looking for books about following. I found far fewer followership books than leadership. Jesus seemed to think that following him was much more important than anyone following us.

Heed this word of caution my good preacher friend. Following him never disallows self denial and cross bearing. Post modern emergent concepts claim the Grace of Christ without repentence or self denial. Walking in grace does not create a license to partake in sins of the flesh. Jesus had this figured out long before any of these modern scruffy looking shirt tail flapping ministers were conceived.

What a Novel Ministry Concept!

Self denial, cross bearing and following HIM.

rks

Joe Pentecost

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How important is Holiness?

There is a great discussion in our world of Apostolic Pentecostals about the priority of holiness principles that have defined us for decades.

There is a great desire among many of us to be more acceptable in the wider world of Christianity so that we might be able to be more main stream and be heard by a larger group of humanity. To some degree to gain access you have to play by another persons rules and homogenize your message and manner to the groups who control access.

We are viewed by a large percentage of mainstream culture as an anomaly. Our ladies have long hair, wear dresses, don't wear makeup and very little to no jewelry. There are a wide range of other things we discourage and believe as well. This puts us outside of the norm. Even very devout "Christians" have no basis of understanding for the reasons this is done.

Why have they not heard or do not understand?
The reason is quite simple, many have never heard messages from Paul, Peter, James and Jesus dealing with the concept of modesty, righteousness and Godly distinction. The additional reason is some who have heard it have rejected it and are on a mission to inoculate others from even considering the wisdom in it.

And now within this environment, we have those who are among us have been influenced by all of these things for various reasons are beginning to question, doubt and outright reject the very essence of who we have been as a people and movement for decades. I don't doubt some have very pure and honorable motives. Naivete, ignorance, foolishness, pride and deception have different causes, however the outcomes are the same.

Why would some who have been on the forefront speaking to the virtues of holiness for decades change their minds? Were they wrong then or are they wrong now?

When holiness was preached in years gone by it was rooted in scriptural teaching and directives. Today the current message is rooted in feelings, philosophies and other paradigms that are heavy on opinions and light on scripture.

I am currently involved in an effort to set a baseline of agreement on the essentials and even in this list, there is much liberty granted. Some would be highly offended that we have not compromised the list to the level of their own individual folly.

Read the Red Letters. Love Jesus. Evangelize the World.

Well, that all sounds great. However, there is folly and deception in this.

I am five years into a church plant. We have experienced virtually no transfers. If you visited on Sunday, there are three or four that were "raised" in pentecost. So I have wrestled with how to approach and teach holiness. I confess that I have been less than great. I have made some fundamental mistakes in the area of not teaching and preaching it as often as I should.

I still am not a hard nosed person. I simply have decided, for myself, I am an Apostolic Pentecostal because I thoroughly and completely know this is right both from a biblical standpoint and the answer to our culture.

I know that many would be offended at some liberty I allow. However on very fundamental issues of Biblical essentials I have began to be much more vocal and consistent. Do I still love people? Absolutely. Am I beating people over the head? No, a thousand times no.

If I truly love people, I am going to tell them the truth even if they may reject me for it. Because my love for God and his approval is greater than my own personal need for approval from those I pastor.

Has it cost me? Absolutely. Do I regret it? No.

Before our church started, we ran our first add in the paper. It went in the thursday paper and at 7:00 a.m. I got a call the very morning. A lady asked me about the church. She told me there were about thirty people in her group and they had music, money and excitement. She said, "I have one question for you. "Are you going to preach holiness?" I confess I hemhawed around, but the essense of what I told her was, "I will not allow what you want to hear redefine what I believe to be true, so yes I will be preaching and teaching holiness." I never heard from this lady again.

I have been confronted by this on two other occasions. As time has passed I have found that when I will preach the message of Jesus, people seem to make conversion and consecration.

What do I mean? The message of Jesus was about cross bearing, self denial and following him. The epistles that we teach and preach are full of "Holiness" teaching, lessons and mandates that are the ways that we as Christians deny, carry our cross and follow him.

If I am to be true to the one who called me and if I truly love those who I am going to give an account for, I am going to have to stand on the word of God and speak clearly on these issues of Holiness, sanctification and modesty.

If I am unwilling to do that, I am less than what God called me to be. Anyone that would encourage me down a path of compromise is the enemy to the purpose of God in my life and ministry.

I believe there is a hunger and conviction in this generation to do what is right over what is convenient and popular.

How important is holiness? I believe it is worth contending for. So I stand and lift up my voice against the flow of our times and say to one and all,

"Follow peace with all me and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord."

The Ark of the Lord and the Glory of God dwelled in the Holy of Holies.

In Him, By Him, Through Him,

Scott A. Phillips
www.inbythroughhim.blogspot.com

If your interested, a website for UPC lic. Ministers to declare they believe and will endeavor to teach/preach this baseline of holiness.

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Those of you are not UPC or not ministry, if you are interested in the reasons behind the declarations, please send me a note and I will endeavor to give you the biblical reasons for our convictions.

Why I believe in Fixed Term Limits

by Scott A. Phillips
scottaphillips@mac.com

From a national perspective and a District and sectional perspective, we would benefit from permanent term limits without an exception clause. Eight Year Consecutive being the limit.

Right now we are going to General Conference and we have term limits kicking in. For the incumbent to stay in office he will be required to get 2/3 on nominating ballot. This is questionable as to the likelihood of happening. I believe Bro. Haney has given his best and has done a honorable job of leading the largest apostolic movement in the world. This is not a slight on Bro. Haney or any other current or past leader. Please, don't read that in my comments that follow. That is not the intent.

I am for term limits for Greater Involvement, ownership and leadership development.

I believe a lot of the current problems we are having and have had over the past few years is a direct product of not having term limits.

I believe the more people that serve, the more buy in that will be enjoyed because of involvement. This will empower people to be more "Defensive" about the ORG, rather than critical.

When men are involved at leadership a few things happen.

1. It broadens your understanding, appreciation and reach of the organization.
2. It helps you see some things that can be done to make the organization to be better.
3. It provides an opportunity to connect and build relationships with men and churches in ways that would not happen otherwise.

For All offices, the current exception of 2/3 on nominating ballot is causing problems. I believe we just need to complete this and make it permanent. I believe that this puts undue pressure on the incumbent and the voters. A man can bow out gracefully, without feeling offended. They served their time. They are now prepared to serve at the next level if they choose and are elected. No one owns the office.

This is not to impugn or glorify anyone. However the following are a few of the results.

A few Men become very gifted at leading.
Power and Influence is held by a few.
Many men miss out on an opportunity to lead, that would grow to become better leaders.

I believe if we look at 24 years. We could have 3 men serve eight years. I believe we would be better served with three men serving rather than one.

I use the following as an example. I hope those that read this will understand I hold my Elders and Leaders in the highest esteem. I have been blessed incredibly by them. However, I still have an opinion and share this because I believe this will help our organization.

In Mississippi we have ten sections and two executive offices. In a 24 year period, you would have 36 men with experience, rather than 12.

Opportunity produces growth. A man never learns how to pastor, till he pastors. Are there mistakes? Absolutely. However, long term men make mistakes as well, having experience does not exempt anyone from mistakes...

Here in Mississippi we have went through a season where men served for decades beside each other. Good Men. Godly Men. Men that deserve honor and respect. In fact a man I would almost change my opinion on because of him. G.R. Travis was an example of Godly, Wise and a Elder Statesman. He would have been that as Superintendent or as a pastor. The office did not make him, he made the Office. His serving as Superintendent was a blessing to Mississippi. Men in his day were elected to office at the age of 30. They in turn served till retirement age. We have a district that had a board who had all served for decades together. With all that in mind, I still believe Mississippi would be better served going forward that all positions would be filled by men for a set period.

In this time very few men grew or had a voice in our district and there was an obvious leadership vacuum. Did we/Do we have great leadership? Absolutely. James Carney was great as a Superintendent. David Tipton, who I greatly respect and is doing a great job. However, in the discussion of who would be available, there were literally just a few even mentioned, and in that it illustrates the leadership vacuum. In a district with 180 Pastors, and we only think of four or five men is a travesty. I dare say that, if more men were involved and had developed and given an opportunity to be known on a broader basis, the actual number of men who could serve honorably would be thirty or more.

Very few men have served in leadership to have the experience deemed necessary to be Superintendent under the age of sixty.

So, few have gotten the opportunity to be seen, heard and appreciated for the depth and wisdom they have to share because a lack of opportunity.

If I was writing this as a man who had not had opportunity, this might all seem self serving. I have had awesome opportunities and I am not wanting an office. I am thirty nine. Have had ordained since 1996. In thirteen years I have served as Sectional Youth, Home Missions, Secretary, Mens Ministry Committee, District Home Missions Secretary as well as currently serve as the Home Missions Director. My predecessor to Home Missions was David Tipton. Bro. Tipton resigned, so I did not compete with him, because there would have been no competition. I don't know a more competent, organized or fine man than David Tipton. My opportunity to serve came because he vacated the office.

What I am advocating is that I should step out of the way in six years. I am under no illusions. Being elected again is not a guarantee. Why? Because there are other men capable, able and willing to serve in this office. In fact there are some that will do a better job. I am alright with that. The office does not define me. No one owes me this office. If my brothers vote another man in, I will continue to be a supporter and believer in Home Missions. No doubt writing things like this might expedite my "Term" Limit. However, anyone that knows me, knows I try to say what I believe as polite as I can, but I will and do say clearly what I believe. I do not believe leadership is silent on difficult situations. Leadership should be bold enough to say what it believes and stand by it, kindly and respectfully.

My perspective is not coming from wanting an office. I have a position. Love the Department I serve in and love the Mississippi district.

I believe that no matter what happens at general conference, we need to study and implement a term limit that is fixed. This is not in disrespect to any current leader. It is out of a respect for the rank and file member of the UPC. There is greatness found in this organization that is displayed in thousands of churches every Sunday. No doubt, many men have no wiliness to serve. But for those that are willing, I think they individually would be blessed to serve... as well as we would be blessed by their serving.

I also believe terms should be four years rather than two. Limit the Total concurrent years served to eight years.

Why am I writing this?

Have you heard what happened in Illinois?

We are going to General Conference and there is a bit of confusion on if Bro. Haney can go back in with 2/3 and if he does not go in, who will we vote on. We are going to have 1,500 voters that have not really had an opportunity to think about this as a whole and many will not even know who are possible candidates. To approach a General Conference of the largest Apostolic Church with this type of indecision and confusion can not be the will of God.

I believe the men who might possibly be in the running need to have some opportunity to consider if they would leave their churches and make some contingent plans if this transpires. We as members need to know who is available and have some opportunity pray about who we think would be best ... rather than a writing a name down on a little blank piece of paper... while we go back and forth with the men beside, before and behind us who to vote for.

Fixed term limits would at least give us more time to consider this. Those of us who believe in term limits need to make them fixed to eliminate the confusion, or do away with them all together to eliminate the confusion.

The Names I have heard, but don't know if they are willing to serve. It would be nice if through the advent of technology we could find out.

David Bernard
Paul Mooney
Jerry Jones
Randy Keyes
Anthony Mangun